Well, after having a day off and enjoying what seems to be a real popular subject on these blogs "Brett Farve" I have decided that no more comment needs to be said regarding this. I feel for all of you that can not let it go. Not sure how to help you on that one. But, I figured this much I will not lower myself to the standards of some of you seriously confused and disturbed people, that for some reason feel that this Farve thing should be of highest interest. I was getting dragged down with crazy thoughts myself until a so called blogger started to MOCK My   LORD JESUS CHRIST and that's when I stand up and say enough. Think what you will it doesn't matter to me. But, fight among yourselves on this subject. I feel for you who are swallowed up in this and are going through such misery. Maybe just maybe you need to "Let go and Let GOD". I am a Packer fan like it or not and I have a strong belief in GOD and and I as you all should fear his wrath.

 

My favorite part of the Olympics was watching Shawn Johnson receive the gold for balance beam.  She has a million mega watt smile and you can't help but like that kid!!!  After all our trial and tribulations in Titletown recently the Olympics were a good reminder of athletes striving for their personal best and to honor their countries.  What was your favorite Olympics moment?

I watched the game ... the news, then the after game coverage ... and shock of shocks...they had the game on again.  The whole thing all over again.  It wasn't bad enough watching it once?  All I can say... is,  ' Thank Goodness it is PreSeason."  So we can break in gradually to getting accustomed to loosing this year.  Ted... your in hopes that this will all blow over and be forgotten...that time will take care of YOUR BIG MISTAKE!  No way... NO HOW ...NOT going na Happen!!!!  Games like tonight will keep it all front and center in the fans minds.  Your Going down Mr. Thompson and your little puppets too.  This will never be forgotten as long as you are still in Titletown USA.  Especially with games like that one.  

I'm still in shock that the Green Bay Packers traded one of the top five all-time quarterbacks in NFL history to the jets for a gauranteed fourth round draft pick. Brett Favre proved to us last season that he still has what it takes to bring a team to a superbowl and yet the Packers TRADED him! This move by management (i.e. Three Stooges) will go down in NFL history as one of the worst decisions ever made by an NFL team. I have nothing against Rodgers, but I thought the job of managment is to put the best possible team on the field for gameday. Nobody can tell me that Rodgers (yet) has more experience or knowledge of how to play the game than Favre does.

    Game two of the Aaron Rodgers era wasn't quite as promising as game one, but let's not go overboard on critisizm.  There is plenty to go around in this one, so one player shouldn't be to spotlighted.

    Rodgers didn't have a great game, but did keep his composure.  He held the ball a little too long at times, and didn't get enough time to throw in others.  He had receivers drop passes again (Is he throwing a ball that is difficult to catch?  Bubba Franks doesn't play for the Packers any more, but the drops are getting worse...) and also had some timing trouble with his receivers that has to improve in a couple of games when the action counts for real.

      So what did we learn from the game against the Niners?  A few things:

    1.  The interior offensive line problems are far from solved.  The moving of the players from side to side is little more than trying to straighten the chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

    2. Jarrett Bush- great guy, not so good at football. Tough night for him in San Francisco, and he may have played his way off the team.

    3. How about Jordy Nelson in the return game!?  And people were worried when Koren Robison was not re-signed.

   4. Rodgers didn't play well, but if he gets hurt, Heaven help the Packers.  Neither back-up has looked good yet.

    Hopefully some of the problems are just typical preseason stumbles.  The starting defense looked good except for one play, and we haven't seen the running game yet, so there are still some things to look forward to. 

     So are you worried?  Sound off here!

   

Was it just me or did I hear a sound track in last nights game?  Fake Cheers?  Now come on ... fans of a sport do not need a sound track to  be added.  Or... is that how High Def sounds?  It was weird to hear at a football game.  (For me anyway.)  I would like to know if anyone else heard it and if so ... how did you like it?  Or maybe they just did it because they did not have enough fans at the game and thought we wouldn't notice.

Some of the bigger picture of what has happened can be explained by the politics of this management. Recently I read, and have been posting a link here and there... to an article that was written by Jason Whitlock. It gives you a better idea of what Brett may have had to face and why things played out the way that they did. So to make sure everyone gets a chance to read this, I have decided to write a blog especially for this link so you can check it out for yourselves. So here it is:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8422668/Favre-can't
-win-when-it-comes-to-office-politics

Now everyone has a better chance at making a informed decision on the recent loss of Brett. I wonder who will be next to go?

What a nice change to turn on the T.V. as of late and watch the Olympics. And Michael Phelps what a swimmer huh?. He and the rest of the Us Teams are doing us proud. Way to go US!!!

I am so tired of all the complaining about Brett. He moved on and is not coming back. Big deal. If you dont like it, turn in your tickets and shut up. I think the office knows a bit more then some of the fans of the Brett Favre Packers. Write all the little poems and ditties about it is not getting him back. Aaron is not the bad guy. He is an innocent player put in the middle. I will stick with the packers no matter who is on the team.

SPORTS
Is Brett a Bad Bet for the Jets? By ALLEN BARRA
August 12, 2008; Page D7

Arriving in New York last Friday, Brett Favre sounded as if he had taken a page from Bull Durham's Nuke LaLoosh. "I'm here for one reason," he told reporters. "I'm here to help the Jets win."

It would have been refreshing if at least one of the worshipful media folk at the press conference had replied, "Well, actually, Brett, you're here because after months of vacillating on your retirement and putting the Packers through hell -- and forcing them into using a valuable draft pick on an extra quarterback because they didn't know whether you'd be playing for them this season -- you tried to bully them into either making you the starter or trading you to a team of your choice. Like a prima donna, you put your own desires ahead of the welfare of the organization to which you professed loyalty. Now you've been dumped on one of the NFL's most desperate franchises because no one else wanted you."

Instead, we're getting gush from a New York media that really ought to know better. Here's the Daily News's Mike Lupica on August 8: "The Jets became a viable franchise [by signing Favre], made you finally notice and talk about them and care about them." As if talking and caring translates into winning football games. And here's CBS's Phil Simms, former New York Giants quarterback and Super Bowl winner: "This is bigger than when Joe Montana left the Forty-Niners to go to Kansas City in 1993."

It would be if Brett Favre were as good as Joe Montana. Mr. Montana won four Super Bowls and was arguably the greatest quarterback in football history; Mr. Favre has won just one Super Bowl and is probably the most overrated, or at the very least overhyped, quarterback in the modern NFL.

Let's strip the Brett-to-the-Jets deal of the illusions the media has wrapped it in. What we have is a 4-12 team that has signed a 38-year-old quarterback who, though he made something of a comeback last season, hasn't otherwise finished in the top five of the league's passers since 2001. (In 2006 he was ranked 25th; in 2005, 31st.).

From 2005 to 2007, Mr. Favre has thrown 66 touchdown passes and 62 interceptions. If any other NFL quarterback had put up those numbers, his job would be on the line; instead, the New York Jets have chosen to delay the inevitable process of breaking in a new young quarterback -- and in fact have released Chad Pennington, who, according to Kerry Byrne of the Web site Cold Hard Football Facts, is "maybe the most underrated quarterback in the NFL."

Brett Favre is one of the most exciting pro quarterbacks ever -- "gun slinger" is the description most often associated with his go-for-broke style of passing. For the most part, the style has been successful: He has guided the Packers to the postseason 11 times in 16 seasons, and he is the NFL's all-time leader in passing attempts, completions, yards and touchdowns. There is no argument that he is a future Hall of Famer.

But there is also considerable evidence that he is nowhere near, as his admirers claim, the greatest passer ever to play the game or that he even ranks in the top 25. Mr. Favre's trademark has always been productivity over quality. He's been remarkably durable with the daring to throw the ball more than any other passer, but he hasn't always thrown it better. He has never, for instance, led the NFL in the league's passer-rating system, which measures effectiveness with various statistics. (In comparison, Joe Montana led the league twice; Mr. Montana's successor at San Francisco, Steve Young, was first six times, and Peyton Manning three times.)

Mr. Favre has probably been excused by fans for not winning a passer-rating title because its formula is so complex most fans don't understand it. However, in the single most important passing stat, yards per attempt (YPA), he has also never led the league and finished as high as second only once (in 1995 with a 7.7 average). Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger currently leads the league in active players at over 8.1 yards per throw.

It's true that Mr. Favre holds the all-time record for TD passes (442), but what isn't as well known is that he also holds the record for most interceptions (288). Perhaps the best way of understanding Mr. Favre's effectiveness is to compare him to baseball pitcher Nolan Ryan, who holds the all-time record for strikeouts but also for walks. Everyone concedes that Mr. Ryan was a legitimate Hall of Famer, but with a lifetime winning percentage of .526, no one argues that he was the best ever or even among his own contemporaries.

Nor, it must be admitted, has Mr. Favre been a particularly good big game performer. His career postseason is a mediocre 12-10, including an embarrassing 23-20 loss to the underdog New York Giants in the NFC conference championship this past January. On his own home field Mr. Favre was outdueled by the previously unheralded Eli Manning. In fact, as a postseason passer Mr. Favre has never approached the record of the Packers' Bart Starr, who won five NFL championships from 1961 to 1967.

Football historian T.J. Troup feels that Mr. Favre's place among the all-time greats is difficult to assess: "In the modern NFL, the rules favor passing over defense, so statistics alone can't tell the story. Put it this way: Favre has won three MVP awards, but except maybe in 1995, he has never really been the best and not as good as many passers from 'the dead ball era,' like Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr and Roger Staubach were in theirs."

However good Mr. Favre was, though, is beside the point to the 2008 New York Jets, who may have bet their future on a Hail Mary pass.

Mr. Barra writes about sports for the Journal.

 

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB1218503509

43631871.html?mod=sports

    Round one goes to Aaron Rodgers, in the game of "Did the Packers make the right decision".  But are Packers fans convinced?  The ones at Lambeau field were before the game even started, giving the new starting quarterback a standing ovation before he even played a snap.  Very classy from the Lambeau faithful- I was very happy and relieved to see that. 

    Normally at home games, the Packers introduce the offense, with the defense being introduced on the road.  They switched that up on Monday night, and though they didn't come out and say it, one can assume the Packers were a little concerned about what Rodgers reception was going to be.   Turns out they needn't have worried.

   Nor should Packers fans.  Rodgers will be just fine.  Yes, he's going to throw interceptions- every quarterback does.  Yes he's going to overthrow some receivers and *gasp* lose some games.  But he's going to make smart plays and control the ball well.  Will he be better than Brett Favre would have been?  We won't know, but at least now we know how the fans who went to the game feel about him.

IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE PACKERS THAT THE STABLE IS FULL OF RECIEVERS. IF RODGERS KEEPS ON LEADING (FORWARD OR HIGH) WHILE THEY ARE IN THE DANGER ZONE THEY ARE GOING TO NEED ALL OF THEM.

JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY IN THE MEDIA NOTICED THAT RODGER'S MISSED A WIDE OPEN JAMES JONES LAST NIGHT.

HANG IN THERE THREE STOOGES. PINK SLIPS FOR ALL COME THE END OF DECEMBER.

Way to go G.B Packer FANS!!  Everyone there at the stadium who showed their support for our team by standing when they came out deserves " at a boys". You all were class acts.  I look forward to an exciting new year fill with hope and promise. GO PACK GO.

I think its worth mentioning that as an "outsider" (i.e. not Mr. Thompson, Coach McCarthy, Mr. Murphy or Mr. Favre), I realize I do not have all of the information about the "Favre situation".  I want to believe the best of each situation, but there is no way that can happen given the "bad blood" that stains the past few months.  Ultimately, we, as Packers fans, have lost a great player.  Brett Favre was a big (if not THE biggest) part of the Packer's past 16 seasons.  He did a lot for our community, our state, and our team.  We do owe him a debt of gratitude.  Favre & his family have always been awesome to us, and I will continue to follow their story as they make it publicly available.  I'm sorry that we lost Brett & his family this season; I'm still foggy on how & why that happened.   I thought he left voluntarily.  But then he wasn't gone, but he wasn't here.  And then he was back; but it was bad.  And then he was gone for good, but on bad terms.  However this came about, we - as Packers fans - need to realize that while Brett was a BIG part of Packer's history for the past 16 years, he was - indeed - just a part.  I wish him the best in his future endeavors.  I am very glad that everything has concluded & we are back to football.  Although my previous posts and comments seemed harsh to Favre, I realize I need to keep in mind all that he has done for our organization & the POSITIVE ripple effect he's had for so many years.  I'm sorry to see the decisions Favre's made recently (not to say the organization is blameless, but he isn't either), and whatever happens I know he'll always be remembered as a Packer.  I think the fans did an AWESOME job on our first Preseason football game with the huge standing "O" for the offense (and even more props for the absence of "Boos"!).  Football, as we have known it, has changed a bit without a green & gold #4 on the field.  But Aaron Rodgers certainly proved himself out there, and I hope that we can all enjoy another great Packers season fresh & new.  I am glad, also, to see such a great football team start to get the recognition they so greatly deserved, vs. being shrouded behind one man.  Both offensively and defensively - and don't forget special teams - everyone came & brought it on Monday night & as Packers fans we need to keep up the awe-inspiring crowd support we've always given our team.  As a team we're legendary.  As fans, we are legendary.  And as always, we will continue to churn out players that will become legendary.  For now & forever; GO PACK GO!

Oh MY GOSH... I just saw that they have posted and will be posting all over the stadium and parking lot  the new rules of Conduct along with the old ...for fans.  So fans be aware... they are now out to get you too.
     Once again I suggest... wearing nothing green and gold and sitting very quiet at the game.  Silence speaks volumes!!!!  I think they are thinking that things could get out of hand tonight and are trying to cover their own bums once again.  Just make your statement in silence and believe me the world will notice this is not the same Packer Fan  pool that they are trying to rule.  Just one more example of what the new management wants to shove down our throats.
     Stay cool and don't break their rules... after all... they just want to keep your tickets.... for those that they can make into their puppets.

I Raise My Hand

A little ditty I did write as I saw Brett fly off from sight.
I cried, I wept, I sobbed all night.
And then... a rage grew inside of me.
Couldn't the whole world look and see.
Just what the management had done.
Yes, they think that they have won.
I for one say, "NO!"
It is YOU that has to go.
I will work both day and night.
To see that YOU take YOUR own flight.
We Brett fan's will take up the fight.
And work OUR hardest to make this right.
We'll take back the stands that we pay for,
and make sure this happens no more.
Since they wouldn't open the door and welcome back the Great # 4. 
We little guy's will make a stand.
For this, I will raise my hand.

Written with love and Respect for #4
V.P.

I am upset... tonight is the first preseason game and the one that should be leading us to victory is not here.  Management saw to that with their own plans for glory and their team agenda... not connected to the past management that had class and the smarts to see something great in Brett Favre.  THE GREATEST QB EVER TO PLAY THE GAME OF FOOTBALL IN YEARS for the Packer fans and organization!  So, when this game tonight kicks off.... remember to show your disgust for what has brought us to this very sad game tonight.  I ask you to hold your stance in this mess by not wearing Green and Gold.  Show the world tonight that the fans will stay the fight to make a stand against  management, they have got to go!!!!  Let them know it tonight!!!!

Here is a quote from one of the bloggers and I've heard many people express a similar sentiment:

"Brett admitted himself very recently that he still holds a considerable grudge against TT for not hiring the coach HE wanted (Mariucci, a proven loser as a head coach) and not getting the WR HE wanted (Moss, a proven cancer in the locker room)"

I never heard Brett say that.  What I heard him say was he was angry when TT said he wasn't aware that Favre wanted Moss(as I keep saying, not hard to find management lying and being evasive) and that TT didn't even give Mariucci an interview as he said he would.  Watch the Brett Favre interview again with Greta Van Susteren to see what he ACTUALLY said.    In fact, watch that interview, then watch TT/MM/MM press conferences. Who looks believable?!

Favre Away
Brett flew in and then flew out
Jets are his future with this there is no more doubt.
But as I sat and watched this turn take place,
I wanted to just sit and hide my face.
With shame I watched Management at it's worst,
I had not yet completely filled my thirst.
So I now fly along to see,
I am a Brett Fan
and ALWAYS WILL BE!

Go Brett
and
Go Jets!

written by V.P

I see basically two things on here everyday. You have the Farve loyal who still support the team,like me,and the Packer loyal. The ones who support Brett are asking for the truth of what Packer management did or said to make Brett want to leave. The Packer loyal all say it`s over, he`s gone, get over it, and many cut down my opinions. What is so wrong with us wanting to know the truth and their reasons for not wanting one of the best things that ever happened to this team back. I refuse to let it go so don`t waste your time responding if that`s all you have to say. I believe in fair play,the truth,and honesty. Brett didn`t receive fair play. The Packer fans are in the dark and have not received honesty. Go Pack! Tear it up in NY Brett!!!